Question 1
Comfort begins the first question with the following: “In what year did USA Today report: Paleontologists have discovered a new skeleton in the closet of human ancestry that is likely to to force science to revise, if not scrap, current theories of human origins?” The discovery left scientists confused, saying, “Lucy may not even be a direct human ancestor after all.”Rays answer: 2001.(Source: Tim Friend, "Discovery rocks human-origin theories" USA Today, March 21, 2001 http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/2001-03-21-skull.htm)
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The fossil in question is Kenyanthropus
platyops, estimated age is between 3.5 and 3.2 million years.
This is a mostly complete cranium which came in two pieces: a
skullcase which was heavily distorted, and a face which was much
better preserved. The fossil has an unusual combination of
characteristics, most notably a broad flat face and small teeth. The
name Kenyanthropus platyops means "Flat faced man of
Kenya". The brain size is similar to that of australopithecines.
However, this fossil does not disprove
the theory of evolution. It is still undergoing investigation of
where it may fit into our lineage, but it does not disprove the fact
that humans are apes and share a common ancestor with other apes.
What the author of this article proposes is that humans may belong to
a separate genus, but they remain unsure. The article includes the
following quote "I and many others believe Lucy needs to be
replaced, but I'm not sure Kenyanthropus is the one,"
says Rick Potts of the Smithsonian Institution's Museum of Natural
History.
Even without a fossil, we still can
prove that humans share a common ancestor with apes based on
genetics, taxonomy, phylogenetics, and much more.
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USA Today is not a scientific
journal. Any body can publish their material and opinions onto such
magazines and newspapers, and USA Today does not provide
proper peer-review.
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“Paleontologists in Africa have found a 3.5 million-year-old skull from what they say is an entirely new branch of the early human family tree, a discovery that threatens to overturn the prevailing view that a single line of descent stretched through the early stages of human ancestry. The discoverers and other scientists of human evolution say they are not necessarily surprised by the findings, but certainly confused. Now it seems that the fossil species Australopithecus afarensis, which lived from about four million to three million years ago and is best known from the celebrated Lucy skeleton, was not alone on the African plain. Lucy may not even be a direct human ancestor after all.”(Source: John Noble Wilford, “Skull May Alter Experts' View Of Human Descent's Branches,” The New York Times, March 22, 2001 )
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The New York Times s not a
scientific journal. Any body can publish their material and opinions
onto such magazines and newspapers, and New York Times does
not provide proper peer-review.
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not damage evolutionary theory
At best, this fossil piece only offers
that the proposed hominid fossil Australopithecus afarensis
(Lucy) was not the only species of hominidea in Africa at the time.
The paper says Lucy “may not” even be a direct human ancestor –
specifically note the “may not” part. It is not concrete proof
that Lucy is therefore dismissed or rejected. Lucy to this day
remains the prime candidate of our early evolutionary ancestry.
Furthermore, while Kenyanthropus platyops
may be a early species of hominidea, nothing about this refutes the
fact that humans share a common ancestor with other primates.
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Recent evidence has proven the Lucy did not walk quadrupedal but upright.
The first comment says that the find might "overturn the
prevailing view that a single line of descent stretched through the
early stages of human ancestry." Observing the conclusion of
this comment, which is a little more obvious: "Lucy may not even
be a direct human ancestor after all." Interesting, but it has
no bearing on our confidence in evolutionary theory in general.
“The evidence given above makes it overwhelmingly likely that Lucy was no more than a variety of pygmy chimpanzee, and walked the same way (awkwardly upright on occasions, but mostly quadrupedal). The 'evidence' for the alleged transformation from ape to man is extremely unconvincing.”(Source: Albert W. Mehlert, Former Evolutionist & paleoanthropology researcher. “Lucy - Evolution's Solitary Claim for Ape/Man.” CRS Quarterly, Volume 22, No. 3, p. 145)
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CRS Quarterly is not an academic
source where a person's material is subject to scientific
peer-review. In fact, it is the very antithesis of a scientific
paper. It is in fact a quarterly journal of the Creation Research
Society
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“Lucy was a chimpanzee. The
'evidence' for the transformation from ape to man is unconvincing.”
This point also might go over your head if you're not scientific, but
the title of the article makes the point obvious: “Lucy:
Evolution's Solitary Claim for Ape/Man.” This article is talking
strictly about the relationship between Lucy and humans. It's not
saying anything fundamental about evolutionary theory. It is not
challenging the the evolutionary model that humans share a common
ancestor with other primates.
Neither of these comments is saying
anything about scrapping evolutionary theory, or even revisiting the
idea that we are apes descended from apes. They're just talking about
scrapping the prevailing views concerning "the early stages of
human ancestry." All they're talking about here is the details
of the family tree that we share with the other primates. Neither one
of these comments says anything incriminating.
“Evidence from fossils now points overwhelmingly away from the classical Darwinism which most Americans learned in high school... The missing link between man and the apes … is merely the most glamorous of a whole hierarchy of phantom creatures. In the fossil record, missing links are the rule... The more scientists have searched for the transitional forms between species, the more they have been frustrated.”(Source: Adler, Jerry “Is Man a Subtle Accident?,” Newsweek, November 3, 1980)
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qualified biologist
Comfort said in the Introduction of
this book he would be quoting "evolutionary experts" and
right here, Comfort provides a quote from a non-biologist. Jerry
Adler is a contributing editor at Newsweek. He is not a
scientist.
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Finally, the last comment: the evidence
points away from Darwinism? Another look at the article reveals
something different;
“Evidence from fossils now points
overwhelmingly away from the classical Darwinism which most Americans
learned in high school: that new species evolve out of existing
ones by the gradual accumulation of small changes. Increasingly,
scientists now believe that species change little for millions of
years and then evolve quickly.”
Context certainly does seem to be
important here. The part that Ray Comfort quotes seems to say that
evolutionary theory itself is in crisis. In proper context, we can
see that the author is not saying anything about evolutionary theory.
He's saying that the changes in species are often sudden, contrary to
the prevailing gradualist view at the time. He even goes on to say
that “the new theories are intended to explain how evolution came
about—not to supplant it as a principle.”
Clearly, no quiet admissions of lack of
evidence concerning evolutionary theory are apparent in any of this
commentary. The question itself and the first two comments simply say
nothing negative at all about any facet of science. The third comment
was quote-mined and grossly misrepresented. Finally, let's look at
the sources for all these excerpts: USA Today in 2001; The
New York Times in 2001; Newsweek in 1980; and CRS
Quarterly. Even if any of these quotes did say something
incriminating about evolutionary theory, we should be very careful
not to grant them too much credence, given that the first three are
popular press and the last one is the quarterly journal of the
Creation Research Society. Not to mention that two of the articles
were already seven years old when Ray published his book, and one of
them almost thirty. An awful lot of knowledge can be gained since in
three decades. Question #1 is empty.
Question 2
"Who said it? "An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have to have been satisfied to get it going"? Comfort answers “Sir Francis Crick”(Source: Life Itself, Its Origins and Nature, 1981, p. 88)Comfort adds, “Francis Crick (1916-2004) was an English molecular biologist, physicist, and neuroscientist who is most noted for being one of the co-discoverers of the structure of the DNA molecule in 1953. He, James D. Watson, and Maurice Wilkins were jointly awarded the 1962 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine “for their discoveries concerning the molecular structure of nucleic acids and its significance for information transfer in living material.””
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What Ray Comfort, and many other
anti-evolutionists, did not post was the rest of the sentence and the
rest of the paragraph by Francis Crick:
" . . . so many are the conditions
which would have had to have been satisfied to get it going. But this
should not be taken to imply that there are good reasons to believe
that it could not have started on the earth by a perfectly reasonable
sequence of fairly ordinary chemical reactions. The plain fact is
that the time available was too long, the many microenvironments on
the earth's surface too diverse, the various chemical possibilities
too numerous and our own knowledge and imagination too feeble to
allow us to be able to unravel exactly how it might or might not have
happened such a long time ago, especially as we have no experimental
evidence from that era to check our ideas against."
It's obvious that whoever posted the
sentence cut off in the middle as it was either was deliberately
dishonest, or never bothered to read the original.
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"Leslie Orgel is one of the leading figures in origin-of-life research since many years, and he is one of several researchers who independently from each other proposed in the 1960's the RNA world as a precursor of the current DNA/protein world. Gerald oyce is also a top scientist in the field. The authors argue in a joint article published in The RNA World, 2nd edition (2000), p. 68, on solid chemical grounds that, because of the complex and stereospecific chemistry required, 'the de novo appearance of oligonucleotides on the primitive earth would have been a near miracle'....They go on to say that although the presumed RNA world should be considered a milestone and a plateau in the early history of the earth, the concept 'does not explain how life originated' (p.74). They conclude (p.74): 'One can sketch out a logical order of events, beginning with prebiotic chemistry and ending with DNA/protein based lief. However it must be said that the details of these events remain obscure and are not likely to be known in the near future.'”(Source: Albrecht Moritz, “The Originof Life” October 31, 2006).
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The quote by Albert Moritz provided by
Ray does not appear anywhere in the source he provided.
Question 3
Fill in the blank. David Kitts, an evolutionary paleontologist, said “Despite the bright promise that paleontology provides a means of 'seeing' evolution, it has presented some nasty difficulties for evolutionists the most notorious of which is the presence of 'gaps' in the fossil record. Evolution requires ________ between species and paleontology does not provide them.” Comfort's answer: "intermediate forms"(Source: Evolution, Vol. 28, September 1974, p. 467).Comfort goes on to add, “Although faced with no paleontological way to show one species changing into another, Kitts holds on to his belief in evolution.”
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Aside from the presence of a dash
between “promise” and “that” in the original text, the quote
is accurate. But does Kitts believe that these gaps disprove
evolution? On page 468 we find this:
“The claim has been repeatedly made
that the fossil record provides a basis for the falsification of
synthetic theory [Neo-Darwinism] and Simpson has demonstrated that
this is not the case.”
Kitts outlines several different
hypotheses as to why the fossil record appears the way it does, among
them Punctuated Equilibrium, but at no point does he abandon
evolution as an explanation for what is
seen.
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"Given the fact of evolution, one would expect to find fossils to document a steady gradual change from ancestral forms to the descendants. But this is not what paleontologist find. Instead, he or she finds gaps in just about every phyletic series."
(Source: Ernest Mayr, What Evolution Is, 2001. p. 14)
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Notice Ernest Mayr calls evolution a
fact, but Ray is giving the false impression that intermediate
fossils do not exist and there are huge gaps in the record. In the
same page, Mayr answers why this is and how it is not a problem for
the theory off evolution. Mayr states that there are several lineages
that are complete — he mentions the lineage between therapsid
reptile and mammals, as well as land-dwelling animals to whales AND
humans from australopithecus ancestors. Mayr states many intermediate
transitional fossils have been found (he even names Archaeopteryx).
Mayr explains that it is very rare for an animal to fossilize because
most animals and plants are eaten. So basically, Mayr is not saying
that these gaps in the fossil record disprove evolution, nor is he
saying it is a problem for the theory. In fact, Mayr provides an
explanation why this is, and how it compliments the theory of
evolution.
"A persistent problem in evolutionary biology has been the absence of intermediate forms in the fossil record. Long-term gradual transfigurations of single lineages are rare and generally involve simple size increase or trivial phenotypic effects. Typically, the record consists of successive ancestor-descendant lineages, morphologically invariant through time and unconnected by intermediates."(Source: P. G. Williamson, Paleontological Documentation of Speciation in Cenozoic Molluscs from Turkana Basin, 1982, pg. 163.)
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This is actually from the journal
Nature 293:437-443 and occurs on page 440. Possibly the
original quote-miner got it from a later collection of papers. The
quote is at the start of the concluding section of the paper, where
Willianson discusses the implications of his research (and in fact
the section is called “Implications”). Williamson certainly
believes that evolution has occurred, because earlier in the paper he
writes: "The 19 species lineages in the section represent 18
genera and 12 families, thus ancestor-descendant relationships
between species lineages and their derivative taxa are unambiguous."
The quoted section introduces the idea of punctuated equilibrium, and
Williamson feels that his research conforms to that idea. He sampled
roughly 3,300 individuals.
"The majority of major groups appear suddenly in rocks, with virtually no evidence of transition from their ancestors."(Source: D. Futuyma, Science on Trial: The Case for Evolution, 1983, p. 82.)
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Finally, and rather ironic, Futuyma
immediately follows this with the observation of an early example, by
Gish, of quote mining. A little later he says: "The transitional
forms that evolve so quickly, and in such a small area, are very
unlikely to be picked up in the fossil record. Only when the newly
evolved species extends its range will it suddenly appear in the
fossil record. Eldredge and Gould have suggested, therefore, that the
fossil record should show stasis, or equilibrium, of established
species, punctuated occasionally by the appearance of new forms.
Hence, the fossil record would be most inadequate exactly where we
need it most -- at the origin of major new groups of organisms."
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Question 4
Question 4 uses a quote from Dr. Tim White that anthropologists want to find a hominid fossil so much that "any scrap of bone will become a hominid fossil" from a New Scientist article were a dolphin bone was mistaken for a hominid collarbone. (Source: New Scientist Hominid collarbone exposed as dolphin)
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This tries to portray scientists as
biased and dogmatic. Scientific results are tested. This has two very
important consequences: First, the scientists know that their results
will be subject to challenge, so they work harder to make sure the
evidence really does support their results. Second, published ideas
that the evidence does not support will get rejected, especially in
times or places with different cultural biases.
Creationists find what they want to
find. Since their entire world view is threatened by finding
disconfirming evidence, they are very highly motivated not to see it.
Scientists, on the other hand, usually welcome disconfirming evidence
when it comes along. But as it stands, there is no evidence
confirming or supporting creationism.
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“Evolutionists present much of their finds as if they were compelling and factual explanations to human evolution. In fact, they base their conclusions on mere speculation and often the flimsiest of `finds'. Many discoveries of supposed hominids consist of only a mouth fragment, a leg bone, a hip bone, or a knee joint. On this alone, they have considered it to be a hominid. They even name it, reconstruct what it looked like, and present it to the public as a fact. Some of these finds have turned out to be those of a pig, donkey, or the result of a hoax. One hoax consisted of someone placing a human skull with an ape's jaw. Evolutionist declared it to be a hominid for fifty years without having done an in depth study of it. Some finds consist of an assortment of fragments found miles apart and then placed together to look as though they came from the same individual. Sometimes rocks as simple as those found in any backyard are called tools of hominids and are pictured in books. Footprints that look identical to any person's today are sometimes declared in books and accepted as those of hominids. The brow ridge that supposedly marked the hominid appears only in one skull.”(Source: Doug LaPointe, “The TopEvidences Against the Theory of Evolution”)
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Doug LaPointe is not a scientist, he is
a pastor who graduated with a degree in Communications at Rutgers
University. (Source)
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This is actually an of-shot web page
from www.bestbiblescience.org.
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Regarding LaPointe, his arguments are
way off. Evolution is not based on fragmentary fossils. The theory
would still be extremely robust with no fossils at all, based on
evidence from modern life. Furthermore, there are more than enough
substantially complete skeletons to support evolution. The whale
transitional sequence, for example, is based on several excellent
skeletons. A single bone, even in isolation, can give a surprising
amount of information. A tooth, for example, can show generally what
kind of food an animal ate and give an idea of its size. These
conclusions, in turn, tell how the animal fits into the ecology.
Bones are never considered in isolation; rather, they are compared
with other bones from more complete skeletons. If you have a bone
that looks like an Iguanodon femur but smaller, to give a simple
example, the reconstruction would look a lot like a smaller
Iguanodon. A complete reconstruction, however, is possible only if
you can match the single bone to an animal for which there is a
complete skeleton already.
“A long-enduring and regrettable effect of the success of the Origin [of Species] was the addiction of biologists to unverifiable speculation...This situation, where scientific men rally to the defense of a doctrine that they are unable to define scientifically, much less demonstrate with scientific rigour, attempting to maintain its credit with the public by the suppression of criticism and the elimination of difficulties, is abnormal and undesirable in science.”(Source: From “evolutionist” W. R. Thompson, Introduction to The Origin of Species 6th Edition (New york; e. P. Dutton & Co., 1956), p. xxii.)
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The quote from Thompson is highly
inaccurate and outdated.
Thompson offers nothing more than "Such is the effect of Darwinian fantasy on biological thinking."
Thompson was not a layman, but a scientist with a Bachelor of Science from the University of Toronto, a Master of Science degree from Cornell, a "D.Sc." from the University of Paris, and a Ph.D. from the University of St. Maximin. He was a practicing entomologist (one who studies insects) and a Fellow of the Royal Society.
Yet despite all this, and in spite of a background that should have provided him with the skills necessary to construct a logical critique of Poulton's article, and the claim that experiments have shown that this variety of Lantern Fly is mimicking an alligator, all Thompson can do is state that it's a fantasy.
If Thompson truly felt that he had a point, he should have backed it up with evidence.
Thompson offers nothing more than "Such is the effect of Darwinian fantasy on biological thinking."
Thompson was not a layman, but a scientist with a Bachelor of Science from the University of Toronto, a Master of Science degree from Cornell, a "D.Sc." from the University of Paris, and a Ph.D. from the University of St. Maximin. He was a practicing entomologist (one who studies insects) and a Fellow of the Royal Society.
Yet despite all this, and in spite of a background that should have provided him with the skills necessary to construct a logical critique of Poulton's article, and the claim that experiments have shown that this variety of Lantern Fly is mimicking an alligator, all Thompson can do is state that it's a fantasy.
If Thompson truly felt that he had a point, he should have backed it up with evidence.
Question 5
This question asks who said it? "To postulate that the development and survival of the fittest is entirely a consequence of chance and mutations (Ray's footnote: In biology, mutations are changes to the base pair sequence of the genetic material of an organism) seems to me a hypothesis based on no evidence and irreconcilable with the facts. These classical evolutionary theories are a gross oversimplification of an immensely complex and intricate mass of facts, and it amazes me that they are swallowed so uncritically and so readily, and for such a long time, by so many scientists without a murmur of protest." Comfort answers “Sir Ernst Chain,” co-holder of the 1945 Nobel Prize for developing penicillin.(Source: Ronald W. Clark, The Life of Ernst Chain [New York: St. Martin's Press, 1985], pp. 147-148)
Not a
qualified biologist
Comfort said in the Introduction of
this book he would be quoting "evolutionary experts" and
right here, Comfort provides a quote from a non-biologist. Ronald W.
Clark is not a scientist, he is a biographer and author.
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Chain was a biochemist, but his
personal views does not agree with the actual evidence. Chain's
primary objection to evolution is that the probability of the origin
of DNA molecules by sheer chance is too small to be seriously
considered - however, this is an outdated objection to abiogenesis, not evolution. Additionally, his objection is an
argument from ignorance - even if we were to discover that the true
probability was enormously small, that has no bearing on whether or
not it actually occurred because 'unlikely' does not equate to
'impossible'.
Modern theories refute Chain's
objection by noting that it's based on fundamentally flawed
assumptions. The first 'life' forms need not resemble modern
proteins, they could have been single, self-replicating molecules or
any number of other simple living things. The formation of these
simple polymers is a natural function of chemistry and the element of
'sheer chance' is limited.
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“'Survival of the fittest' and 'natural selection.' No matter what phraseology one generates, the basic fact remains the same: any physical change of any size, shape or form is strictly the result of purposeful alignment of billions of nucleotides (in the DNA). Nature or species do not have the capacity for rearranging them, nor adding them. Consequently no leap (saltation) can occur from one species to another. The only way we know for a DNA to be altered is through a meaningful intervention from an outside source of intelligence: one who knows what it is doing, such as our genetic engineers are now performing in their laboratories.”(Source: I. L. Cohen (officer of the Archaeological Institute of America) taken from the book Darwin Was Wrong: A Study in Probabilities (New York: New Research Publications, Inc., 1984, p. 209)
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Comfort said in the Introduction of
this book he would be quoting "evolutionary experts" and
right here, Comfort provides a quote from a non-biologist.
Cohen is a mathematician, not a
biologist, so already he is making claims outside his field.
Rearrangements of DNA do happen naturally, and no scientist (not even
Cohen) has provided any evidence of supernatural influence regarding
evolution. The best argument they come up with is the flawed argument
from probability. Mutations are degrees of variation which are
usually quite subtle but cumulative, normally harmless, and
occasionally advantageous. Any change in information is different
information, not already present, and therefore can only be
considered “new”. But of the many types of mutations known to
occur, there are additions and duplications as well as deletions and
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Question 6
A true or false question. "There is ample fossil evidence to support mankind evolved from ape-like creatures." Comfort (unsurprisingly) answers false and then provides another quote: “Species that were once thought to have turned into others have been found to overlap in time with these alleged descendents. In fact, the fossil record does not convincingly document a single transition from one species to another.”(Source: S. M. Stanely, The New Evolutionary Timetable: Fossils, Genes, and the Origin of Species (New York: Basic books, 1981), p. 95)
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Here is the full quote (words Comfort
omits are in bold);
“Superb fossil data have recently
been gathered from deposits of early Cenozoic Age in the Bighorn
Basin of Wyoming. These deposits represent the first part of the
Eocene Epoch, a critical interval when many types of modern mammals
came into being. The Bighorn Basin, in the shadow of the Rocky
Mountains, received large volumes of sediment from the Rockies when
they were being uplifted, early in the Age of Mammals. In its
remarkable degree of completeness, the fossil record here for the
Early Eocene is unmatched by contemporary deposits exposed elsewhere
in the world. The deposits of the Bighorn Basin provide a nearly
continuous local depositional record for this interval, which lasted
some five million years. It used to be assumed that certain
populations of the basin could be linked together in such a way as to
illustrate continuous evolution. Careful collecting has now shown
otherwise. Species that were once thought to have turned into
others have been found to overlap in time with these alleged
descendants. In fact, the fossil record does not convincingly
document a single transition from one species to another.
Furthermore, species lasted for astoundingly long periods of time.
David M. Schankler has recently gathered data for about eighty mammal
species that are known from more than two stratigraphic levels in the
Bighorn Basin. Very few of these species existed for less than half a
million years, and their average duration was greater than a million
years.”
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There are
mountains of evidence to prove that man evolved from ape-like
creatures, Ray Comfort is only asking for fossil evidence. We have
found many fossils that our lineage is not considered
complete,
but even without a single fossil, we still have plenty evidence of
common descent. Demanding an “ape-man” is actually just as silly
as asking to see a mammal-man, or a half-human, half-vertebrate. How
about a half dachshund, half dog? It’s the same thing. One may as
well insist on seeing a town half way between Los Angeles and
California. Because the problem with bridging the gap between humans
and apes is that there is no gap because humans ARE apes –definitely
and definitively. The word, “ape” doesn’t refer to a species,
but to a parent category of collective species, and we’re included.
This is no arbitrary classification like the creationists use. It was
first determined via meticulous physical analysis by Christian
scientists a century before Darwin, and has been confirmed in recent
years with new revelations in genetics. Furthermore, it is impossible
to define all the characters exclusively indicative of every known
member of the family of apes without describing our own genera as one
among them. Consequently, we can and have proven that humans are apes
in exactly the same way that lions are cats, and iguanas are lizards,
and whales are mammals. So where is the proof that humans descend
from apes? How about the fact that we’re still apes right now!
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“...the gradual morphological transitions between presumed ancestors and descendants, anticipated by most biologists, are missing.”(Source: David E. Schindel (Curator of Invertebrate Fossils, Peabody Museum of Natural History), “The Gaps in the Fossil Record,” Nature Vol. 297, 27 May 1982, p. 282.)
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“Indeed, it is the chief frustration of the fossil record that we do not have empirical evidence for sustained trends in the evolution of most complex morphological adaptations.”(Source: Stephen J. Gould and Niles Eldredge, “Species Selection: Its Range and Power,” Nature, Vol. 334, 7 July 1988, p. 19)
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The quote by Stephen J. Gould is aquotemine.
Gould was explaining punctuated equilibrium, but his work before and
afterward explicitly showed that he did accept there were hundreds of
transitional fossils.
Question 7
This question address archaeology and the Bible. Somehow, Ray Comfort thinks this refutes evolution. The question is which publication reported the following: "In an extraordinary way, modern archaeology is affirming the historical core of the Old and New Testaments, supporting key portions of crucial biblical stories." Comfort answers “Readers Digest”(Source: Jeffery L. Sheler, “Is the Bible True?” June 2000).
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First of all, the reliability of
biblical history is irrelevant to the subject of evolution. Even if
the archeology provided any support to the biblical stories (which
they don't), it wouldn't damage the credibility of the theory of
evolution in any way. If we discovered that Jericho and the Exodus
happened, that would not instant change the reality that we (humans)
are apes by definition nor would it automatically make the evidence
for evolution vanish.
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Second of all, Readers Digest
can publish whatever they wish and it is rather pathetic that Comfort
uses this as a valid argument. How about a legitimate historical
journal, or at least by an authentic historian or archaeologist.
Jeffery Sheler is a freelance journalist, who worked for the U.S.
News & World Report for 24 years, including 15 years as the
religion editor. Lets take a look at what two authentic historians
and archaeologists and see if they support Ray's claim that
archaeology supports the Bible,
- William Denver, an archaeologists normally associated with the more conservative end of Syro-Palestinian archaeology, has labeled the question of the historicity of Exodus “dead.”
- Israeli archaeologist Ze,ev Herzog, provides the current consensus view on the historicity of the Exodus: “The Israelites were never in Egypt. They never came from abroad. This whole chain is broken. It is not a historical one. It is a later legendary reconstruction—made in the seventh century [BCE]—of a history that never happened.”
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“Following the 1993 discovery in Israel of a stone containing the inscriptions “House of David” and “King of Israel,” Time magazine reported, “The writing—dated to the 9th century B.C., only a century after David's reign—described a victory by a neighboring king over the Israelites...The skeptics' claim that David never existed is now hard to defend.”(Source: Michael D. Lemonick ("Are the Bible stories True?" Time June 24, 2001)
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qualified biologist
Comfort said in the Introduction of
this book he would be quoting "evolutionary experts" and
right here, Comfort provides a quote from a non-biologist. Michael D.
Lemonick is a journalist, not a scientist.
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relevant to evolutionary theory or biology
The quote by Lemonick is also
misleading. Skeptics do not question the existence of David, but the
size of his empire. Archaeological evidence does not support the
description of his empire as described in the Bible, but none of that
matters anyway to the theory of evolution. Even if the archeology
provided support to the biblical stories of David, it wouldn't
damage the credibility of the theory of evolution in any way.
Discovering a stone with several engravings on it does not instantly
change the reality that we (humans) are apes by definition nor would
it automatically make the evidence for evolution vanish.
“During the past four decades, spectacular discoveries have produced data corroborating the historical backdrop of the Gospels. In 1968, for example, the skeletal remains of a crucified man were found in a burial cave in northern Jerusalem...There was evidence that his wrists may have been pierced with nails. The knees had been doubled up and turned sideways and an iron nail (still lodged in the heel bone of one foot) driven through both heels. The shinbones appeared to have been broken, perhaps corroborating the Gospel of John.”(Source: Jeffery L. Sheler. “Is the Bible True?” Readers Digest June 2000)
Not
relevant to evolutionary theory or biology
This does not mean squat to the theory
of evolution. Despite whether the act of crucifixion was common or
practiced back then is irrelevant. None of it does not instant change
the reality that we (humans) are apes by definition nor would it
automatically make the evidence for evolution vanish.
Non-Academic
Source
Sheler's quote proves nothing except
crucifixion was practiced back then. Nobody argues against this. What
the problem is that there is no evidence for a crucified man who rose
from the dead several days later. There is no evidence of a massive
earthquake, a solar eclipse, nor a mass resurrection of the dead who
walked in the streets of Jerusalem for all to see.
We know that Greek heroes were often
buried in certain fashions, and we have evidence of these burials,
but that does not mean mythical Greek heroes described in Homer's
epics as real.
“At the present stage of geological research, we have to admit that there is nothing in the geological records that runs contrary to the view of conservative creationists, that God created each species separately, presumably from the dust of the earth.”(Source: Edmund J. Ambrose (Emeritus Professor of Cell Biology, University of London), The Nature and Origin of the Biological World (John Wiley & Sons, 1982) p. 164)
Quote
Mine/Distorted message of author
Turns out this is a quote mine. The
full quote is provided below, with omitted words in bold;
“We need to remember that the only
evidence about the way events occurred in the past is found in the
geological records. However sophisticated advances in molecular
genetics and molecular engineering may become eventually, the fact
that a genetic change or even a new species might be generated
eventually in the laboratory does not tell us how new species arose
in the past history of the earth. They merely provide possible
mechanisms. At the present stage of geological research, we have
to admit that there is nothing in the geological records that runs
contrary to the view of conservative creationists, that God created
each species separately, presumably from the dust of the earth. My
own view is that this does not strengthen the creationists'
arguments.”
Does
not damage evolutionary theory
So Ambrose believes that the fossil
record is incomplete, but doesn't feel that this strengthens the
creationist's hand. But he does feel that the geological record
supports evolution, as we can see on page 103:
“It is strikingly clear in the
geological records, when life had reached the stage where organisms
were capable of living in a previously unoccupied region of the
planet, such as the move from estuaries to dry land, the appearance
of plants growing to great heights which provided a location
(habitat) for climbing animals, or when birds and insects actually
moved up and flew in theair[sp] above the earth's surface. Large
numbers of new species appeared at these times; this has been called
radiation, a spreading out of life.”
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Source
Distortion
of Science
Taking the
quote-mine at face value, Ambrose would be completely mistaken. The
geological record does not support a young earth, global flood, or
any other myth in creationism.
Question 8
Fill in the blank question. Richard Dawkins said "feathers are modified reptilian ______" Ray answers "scales" (put provides no source for this) and argues this is false. Ray Comfort uses arguments from Jonathan Sarfati, and creationist author with a PhD in chemistry. Sarfati formerly worked for Answers in Genesis (AiG), presently works for Creation Ministries International (CMI) as co-editor of their magazine, Creation.
Not a
qualified biologist
Comfort said in the Introduction of
this book he would be quoting "evolutionary experts" and
right here, Comfort provides a quote from a non-biologist. Sarfati is
not a paleontologist, biologist or skilled in taxonomy. Here is asite that reveals Sarfati's fallacious
works.
Sarfati's work has been known as "crude piece of propaganda"by the National Center for ScienceEducation.
Reed A. Cartwright and Dr Douglas L. Theobald, have criticized
Sarfati's claims such as one that accuses scientists of continually
changing the definition of vestigial to match the
evidence.
Distortion
of Science
Feathers are indeed modified reptilian
scales.
In-Depth Comment
Comfort quotes E. Mayr, “Paleontologists had long been aware of a seeming contradiction between Darwin's postulate of gradualism...and the actual findings of paleontology. Following phylogenetic lines through time seemed to reveal only minimal gradual changes but no clear evidence for any change of a species into a different genus or for the gradual origin of an evolutionary novelty. Anything truly novel always seemed to appear quiet abruptly in the fossil record.”(Source: E. Mayr, One Long Argument: Charles Darwin and the Genesis of Modern Evolutionary Thought (Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 1991), pg. 138)
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Quote
Mine/Distorted message of author
Not surprising, the quote by Mayr is a
quote mine. Continuing on, it reads, “During the synthesis it
became clear that since new evolutionary departures seem to take
place almost invariably in localized isolated populations, it is not
surprising that the fossil record does not reflect these sequences.”
Ernst Mayr there is paraphrasing Steve
Gould's findings and he's talking about species levels. In other
words, the level at which punctuated equilibrium applies to single
lineages of one species moving to the next as we talked about before.
Mayr is not not talking about things like the origins of birds and
feathers and whales and getting land creatures out of that. Ernst
Mayr was not a paleontologist and did not familiarize himself with
the date of the fossil record.
Question 9
Addressing transitional fossils. Does transitional fossils prove macroevolution as a scientific fact? Ray Comfort answers “No.”Comfort then provides a quote from Luther D. Sutherland's book Darwin's Enigma. “Now, after over 120 years of the most extensive and painstaking geological exploration of every continent and ocean bottom, the picture is infinitely more vivid and complete than it was in 1859. Formations have been discovered containing hundreds of billions of fossils and our museums are filled with over 100-million fossils of 250,000 different species. The availability of this profusion of hard scientific data should permit objective investigators to determine if Darwin was on the right track.”(Source: Luther D. Sunderland (Creationist), Darwin's Enigma: Fossils and Other Problems, 4th edition, Master Books, 1988, p. 9 (Emphasis added by Comfort)Ray Comfort claims that nothing has changed in 30 years.
Does
not damage evolutionary theory
Darwin's Enigma is a rather
infamous creationist book piled with dishonesty, but several years
later the author Sunderland changed his views.
Distortion
of Science
Transitional fossils do prove
macroevolution is a fact, but so does phylogeny, speciation, specie
rings, and much more.
We have discovered many transional
fossils that prove macroevolution. A decade ago, Kathleen Hunt, a
zoologist with the University of Washington, produced a list of a few
hundred of the more dramatic transitional species known so far, all
of which definitely fit every criteria required of the most
restrictive definition. Myriad transitional species have been, and
still are being, discovered; so many in fact that lots of biologists
and paleontologists now consider that list “innumerable”
especially since the tally of definite transitionals keeps growing so
fast! Several lineages are now virtually complete, including our own.
Apparently, Ray Comfort, A LOT has
happened in thirty years.
In-Depth Comment
"Given that evolution, according to Darwin, was in a continual state of motion, with ongoing but slow and gradual change accruing over long periods of time, it follows logically that the fossil record should be rife with examples of transitional forms leading from the less to more evolved...But when the dust settled, and the fossils were assessed in terms of whether they validated Darwin's evolutionary predictions, a clear picture of slow, gradual evolution, with smooth transitions and transformations from fossils of one period to another, was not forthcoming. Instead of filling the gaps in the fossil record with so-called missing links, most paleontologists found themselves facing a situation in which there were only gaps in the fossil record, with no evidence of transformational intermediates between documented fossil species."(Source: Jeffrey H. Schwartz, Sudden Origins: Fossils, Genes and the Emergence of Species (New York: John Wiley & Sons, 1999), p. 89).
Quote
Mine/Distorted message of author
Here is the full quote (with words
omitted in bold)
“Given
that evolution, according to Darwin, was in a continual state of
motion, with ongoing but slow and gradual change accruing over long
periods of time, it followed logically that the fossil record should
be rife with examples of transitional forms leading from the less to
the more evolved. Not only had Darwin put these thoughts
into words but he had also illustrated them in a diagram that
consisted of hypothesized ancestors giving rise over time to
hypothesized lineages of descendant organisms. In various places in
this diagram, Darwin indicated the extinctions of hypothetical
lineages as well as the origins of a multiplicity of species from the
same ancestor. In words and in illustration -- the only illustration
in On the Origin of Species -- Darwin breathed new life into the
discipline of paleontology, which was the only field of study that
could provide the scientific world with an actual picture of his view
of evolution.
Fueled in no small way by the role
that paleontology could assume -- reconstructing and also
demonstrating the course of evolution -- the world's leading museums
of natural history focused on fossil collecting. When these
institutions were first founded, they were envisioned as the forums
for displaying, in often overfilled and poorly labeled cabinets,
unorganized geologic and biological collections of plain old
specimens. Now, armed with the possibility of being able to exhibit
not just an array of fossils but the drama of evolution itself,
museums vied with one another to secure the best fossil localities
and discover increasingly older representatives of the lineages of
now-extinct animals. In the American West, fossil hunting took on the
stereotype of the ruthless Old West. Fossil localities were kept
secret and guarded by men with rifles. Armed guards also accompanied
the trainloads of plaster-protected and crated fossils that often
traveled by night in order to avoid detection. Sometimes, however,
these attempts at secrecy did not work, and gangs from rival museums
would successfully raid and loot the paleontological spoils of the
competition.
But when the dust settled, and the
fossils were assessed in terms of whether they validated Darwin's
evolutionary predictions, a clear picture of slow, gradual evolution,
with smooth transitions and transformations from fossils of one
period to another, was not forthcoming. Instead of filling in the
gaps in the fossil record with so-called missing links, most
paleontologists found themselves facing a situation in which there
were only gaps in the fossil record, with no evidence of
transformational evolutionary intermediates between documented
fossil species. Without fossil intermediates to back up Darwinian
predictions of how evolution works, the turn of the century saw [P.
90] both paleontology (an evolutionary discipline) and gradual change
via natural selection (an evolutionary model) fall on hard times.
Even the paleontologists' special plea---that the gaps in the fossil
record were the consequences of poor preservation, the loss of
fossils through erosion or other destructive processes---did not
work.'
The egregious omission of context is
evident from the sentence immediately following, but omitted from,
the original quotation. The most natural interpretation of the
quotation, as originally given, is that in the second sentence
Schwartz was referring to the contemporary status of palaeontology.
However, in the section of Sudden Origins from which the quotation
was taken, Schwartz was giving a historical account of the fate of
Darwin's theory, and of palaeontological activities, in the years
immediately following the publication of On the Origin of Species. It
is clear from the missing context that in the last sentence of the
cited quotation Schwartz was referring to the status of palaeontology
towards the end of the 19th century.
Schwartz's opinion about the state of
palaeontology may be at the time he was writing (c. 1999, when his
book was published) which may well be much the same as it is about
its state towards the end of the 19th century. Nevertheless, the
cited quotation provides no evidence whatsoever that this is the
case, since, as already noted, Schwartz was there referring only to
the situation as it stood at the earlier period.
As the complete version of the
quotation shows, the omitted text indicated by the second ellipsis in
the original version comprises three full sentences at the end of the
paragraph where it starts, the entire following paragraph, and one
sentence at the beginning of the next. If the proper context, as
indicated above, had been otherwise provided, the omission of this
text would not seem to me, by itself, to have substantially changed
the meaning of the quoted text. Nevertheless, the quotation, as
given, suggests a much closer connection between its first and second
sentences than there actually is between them in Schwartz's original
text.
In the second sentence of the original
quotation, the word "evolutionary" has been omitted from
between "transformational" and "intermediates".
Presumably this was an inadvertent copying error, since it does not
appear to favor any particular interpretation of the original text
over any other.
Question 10
True or False question. Does the first law of thermodynamics state energy and matter cannot be created? Comfort correctly answers “True” but argues that this proves the the Bible true and the Big Bang Theory false, because Comfort claims the Big Bang Theory says everything came from nothing. Ray Comfort quotes Genesis 2:1 to argue that the “heavens and the earth were finished” and Genesis 2:2 that “God rested from his work of creation” – therefore, according to Ray Comfort, “our present universe prevent any possibility of matter springing out of nothing today.”
How does the Big Bang prove the Bible?
The Bible says that the universe was created magically from nothing.
The Big Bang does not say at all that the universe was created
magically or from nothing. While some scientists may claim that the
universe originated from nothing, they no not mean that all matter
was created from nothing. To clarify, they say that space and matter
was so small that it seemed almost irrelevant to include it in their
equations, but they understand that there was always something. Dr.
Sten Odenwald (Raytheon STX) for NASA, Education and Public Outreach
program, 2001 spelled out what scientists mean when they say
"nothing:"
“How can 'nothing' do anything at
all, let alone create an entire universe? When physicists say
'nothing' they are being playful with the english language, because
we often think of the vacuum as being 'empty' or 'nothing' when in
fact physicists know full well that the vacuum is far from empty. The
primordial 'state' at the Big Bang was far from being the kind of
'nothingness' you might have in mind. We don't have a full
mathematical theory for describing this 'state' yet, but it was
probably 'multi- dimensional', it was probably a superposition of
many different 'fields', and these fields, or whatever they were,
were undergoing 'quantum fluctuations'. Space and time were not the
things we know them to be today because our world is a lot colder
than the way it started out. Nothingness was not nothing, but it was
not anything like the kinds of 'somethings' we know about today. We
have no words to describe it, and the ones we borrow (that are listed
in the Oxford English Dictionary) are based on the wrong physical
insight.”
In-Depth Comment
“First Law of thermodynamics: Energy can be changed from one form to another, but it cannot be created or destroyed. The total amount amount of energy and matter in the Universe remains constant, merely changing from one form to another. The First Law of Thermodynamics (Conservation) states that energy is always conserved; it cannot be created or destroyed. In essence, energy can be converted from one form into another.”
Not
relevant to evolutionary theory or biology
The quote provided is correct, but Ray
Comfort's conclusion is not. Ray's position, creationism, states God
created everything. In the book of Genesis, God said "Let there
be..." and it was. This is basically an incantation (i.e. MAGIC)
that created everything out of thin air (nothing). It does not
explain how God created anything, nor does Ray provide anything that
is only the result of supernatural creation.
TOTALS FOR THIS SEGMENT (Q 1 - 10)
Fallacy | Number of Fallacies |
Quote Mining | 12 |
Appeal to Authority | 1 |
Outdated Source | 11 |
Non-Academic Source | 7 |
Not a qualified biologist or scientist | 6 |
Not Relevant to Evolutionary theory or Biology | 5 |
Not Damaging to Evolutionary theory | 5 |
Distortion of Science | 10 |
Total | 57 |
There are a total of 28 quotes in this segment. Almost half of them are quote-mines
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